Gutted...crashed

moonman374

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• Nov 26, 2005

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Alright guys i need your opinion

Just crashed my 02 seat ibiza cupra mk3. Was drivin along at about 40mph. started to brake as i came to a junction and suddenly all the dash lights i.e tcs abs etc came on. the car did not brake and it went up a kerb, over a street sign and into a bush eventually landing against a building.

It was like the brakes just would not work. Just had car pulled out of the bush and the brakes feel different. its like you have to press really hard. Not like usual when braking was easy

a chap at seat thinks its maybe the brake servo

why would this happen? i could not do a thing about it?

what would do this?

 

Daz_gibbo

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• Nov 26, 2005

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Did you have your servo pipe recall done?

 

m0rk

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• Nov 26, 2005

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did you have the brake servo pipe replaced in teh recall?

 

moonman374

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Yeah I had it done not long ago, is there any way this pipe could have affected the servo?

You're all talking about this pipe, is this a common fault? Has anyone had any problems with Seat after having the pipe recall actioned?

 

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danregs

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• Nov 26, 2005

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sounds very likely it was a problem with your servo system mate

and yes the servo hose was a very common prob (see the recall sticky at the top of the mk3 forum)

 

andycupra

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• Nov 26, 2005

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sadly brakes do fail from time to time.

but you check to see if the road was icey? is that a possibility?

sounds like the brake may have failed, but at the same time they may have been damaged / effected due to the crashing through a hedge.
all pipes checked ok?

 

moonman374

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Road was slightly wet but not icy. when braking as approaching the junction there was nothing in the way of brakes. it just kept going. Sort of a brake fade type feeling but multiplied. The brake is really stiff now

 

devonmikeyboy

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• Nov 26, 2005

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Sorry to here about your crash mate, i know how you feel i just rolled mine !

 

WeeJase

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but surely if the servo fails you still have brakes?

 

moonman374

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yeah there are but only to certain extent and you have to really push them down. which is unexpected. how can i tell if there servo has gone

 

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I think you have to pump the brakes with the engine off. This uses up any vacuum in the system. Then hold the pedal down and start the engine. If the pedal sinks a bit then the servo is working.

I once lost the servo on a merc sprinter when a pipe came off. Scary isn't the word. Both feet and lifting off the seat I was pushing so hard.

 

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moonman374

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tried that. it does sink abit. but the brakes def aint as usual. When you brake hard usually you get the light on the dash flash? NOT ANYMORE. what could it be


it does not really matter as i am liable. i can take that. but i wanna know why. if it was my bad driving i would say so but i was let down by my brakes and just wanna know why

 

Redcupra20vt

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• Nov 26, 2005

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i know what its like to loose the brakes too. I borrowed a vna from where i a work, was heading doen the a12 towards essex, saw a queue of traffic in front, and i braked but ofund i had no servo assistance.

SCARY!! like posted above i was out the seat standing on the brakes to stop.

Paul

 

scrob

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moonman374 said:

Yeah I had it done not long ago, is there any way this pipe could have affected the servo?

You're all talking about this pipe, is this a common fault? Has anyone had any problems with Seat after having the pipe recall actioned?

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I had my pipe recalled in May, come October it has split again, so had it replaced again.

 

scrob

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PS did you not think about wigging on the hand brake?

 

moonman374

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nope unfortunatly not. need to get it checked over big time. brakes still feel weird. plus there is what seems to be a fair bit of mech damage

 

WeeJase

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Redcupra20vt said:

i know what its like to loose the brakes too. I borrowed a vna from where i a work, was heading doen the a12 towards essex, saw a queue of traffic in front, and i braked but ofund i had no servo assistance.

SCARY!! like posted above i was out the seat standing on the brakes to stop.

Paul

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i had an experiance too.pick a van up that had had the alternator replaced,some chimp hadn't tightened it up enough,belt went slack and that also ran the servo on the old ford transit,first time i used them was to slow me down a country hill,ended up (luckily) in the lay by at the bottom sideways after using the hand brake and gear box to slow me down from approx 50 odd mph,the smell in the van wasn't friction material i can tell you

 

Daz_gibbo

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• Nov 27, 2005

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In a situation like that you have to really be switched on to whap the handbrake up. You probably have a few seconds to react. Even less after finding out your brakes are