My ARB has snapped!

Deejay · Feb 1, 2004

not a happy bunny,as discussed with a few peeps at the stealth RR day about a very annoying rattle I was getting on my cupra.

well after lots of non-fault diagnosis' by myself over a few weeks-I have finaly found the fault.

My bloomin uprated Nuespeed front 22 mm ARB has snapped on one of the end rose joints on the left front,not impressed to say the least!!!

I can only put it down to a poor quality made part as ive done no track days etc and I wouldn't consider myself a maximum pasty giver as some of the peeps are on here.

anybody had this happen to them?

vern · Feb 1, 2004

it all the extra ice dan,cables and such

vern

F2 Stu · Feb 1, 2004

Eeeeek

poor quality casting (if its a cast component) prolly had a defualt in it when it left the factory without being NDT'd

max_torque · Feb 1, 2004

Looking at the pic it's not actually surprising that it has failed for 2 reasons:

1) it looks like a pissy little clevis holding the rosejoin to the lower arm, bear in mind that an ARB can support the entire corner weight of the car statically, then add in the shock loadings and you can see over 500kg loading.

2) once again it shows that aftermarket people have absolutely no idea how a car actually works, or the funamental design principles involved, because that link design is never gonna last!. (as the wishbone pivots up and down it will move the end of the ARB, which is pivoting about a different point, hence as the 2 arcs move it requires the length of the bar to change, or in this case you end up putting huge sheer forces into the clevis. i'd put money on the fact that if you inspect the failure, you will see a shear failure begining on one side of the clevis, rather than a typical "necked" failure in vertical tension. The factory part uses a longer "link rod" to allow for the difference in wishbone and ARB arcs.

F2 Stu · Feb 1, 2004

its strange that other havent experienced simular failures especially those who drive like they stole it........

Dormouse · Feb 1, 2004

Hmmm...

Mines squeeking (excuse rodentine pun) at the front too. I'll have to check - cheers dude.

I note from the pic that it may have also been rubbing on your drivshaft gaitor?....

Nice bit of cadmium corrosion there!

- i threw wax at mine...

Dor.

EDIT - The bush looks well deep in the wishbone....mine isn't that tight in there....

ibizacupra · Feb 2, 2004

Mines still Ok... Mines a 25mm bar tho.
Freak of nature or perhaps assembled under tension from day one.. It took me ages to adjust it on assembly.

The joint is a Spherical Joint.

Speak with Awesome.. They should get you a replacement... (warranty claim)

regards
bill

Deejay · Feb 2, 2004

Originally posted by ibizacupra
Mines still Ok... Mines a 25mm bar tho.
Freak of nature or perhaps assembled under tension from day one.. It took me ages to adjust it on assembly.

The joint is a Spherical Joint.

Speak with Awesome.. They should get you a replacement... (warranty claim)

regards
bill

yer sorry-mine is a 25mm also,got the 28mm on the rear too.

Looking at where it has snapped more closely the part is only approx 3-4 mm gauge steel.surely you would think it needs to be made of something of a more solid thickness to withstand the abuse and general nature of what this part is suppose to do:dunno:

WeeJase · Feb 2, 2004

better get under mine,been having some issues with noisy front end,especially when turning,mind you mine is factory fit,off a cupraR

Dormouse · Feb 3, 2004

Originally posted by jason
better get under mine,been having some issues with noisy front end,especially when turning,mind you mine is factory fit,off a cupraR

And uses different attachments from the Neuspeed at the wishbones.

Dor.

Fl@pper · Feb 3, 2004

Originally posted by ibizacupra

The joint is a Spherical Joint.

bill

i can get hold of various rose joints or make some heavy duty fittings if anyone has a plan ?

Deejay · Feb 4, 2004

Originally posted by Fl@pper
i can get hold of various rose joints or make some heavy duty fittings if anyone has a plan ?

Its not so much the rose joint that is weak,its the U bracket with the bolt welded on the bottom.

All the same if you can get hold of two of these heavy duty u brackets for me,I would be very interested.

Cheers

Dan

Deejay · Feb 7, 2004

it is fixed,thanx to awesome.
We now have a car again that will actually go left and not slide all over the place like Im driving on ice.

Fl@pper · Feb 7, 2004

save me a bracket ??

wouldnt mind a look to see if a revision or 2 could be made

Deejay · Feb 7, 2004

Originally posted by Fl@pper
save me a bracket ??

wouldnt mind a look to see if a revision or 2 could be made

Awesome took the goosed one off me as they are gonna be in talks with Nuespeed about it and in turn gave me two new ones in replacement.

However if you can get/make something of more sturdier construction than the item that comes with the nuespeed kit I am all ears.

I will post a pic of the exact bit tht has let me down when I get my camera back from the mrs.

Ta

Dan

ZBOYD · Feb 7, 2004

Take it you may be coming tommorow then Dan

Quite a few of us it seems will be there.

Deejay · Feb 11, 2006

another one bites the dust, make that 3 brackets that have failed me now and counting.

nuespeed arb's avoid!

F2 Stu · Feb 11, 2006

Dodgy batch of parts methinks, seems to be isolated to you though.

Pabs · Feb 11, 2006

not good news, seeing the price of the neuspeed stuff.

Deejay · Feb 12, 2006

F2 Stu said:
Dodgy batch of parts methinks, seems to be isolated to you though.

disagree, the brackets are just not upto the job imho. metal needs to be a thicker gauge for a start.

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