There’s been lots of discussion on the forum about the potential safety implications of removing most - if not all - of the conventional interior switchgear. it would be good to get an open and honest view on how intuitive and easy it is;
- to use the main touchscreen for basic functions such as adjusting the heating controls and radio volume while driving
- to locate and operate the different areas on the lighting control touchpad, which is located quite low down and out of the driver’s line of sight. The rear screen de-mist ’button’ is now on the lighting control touchpad, so how easy is it to locate/operate while still focusing on the road ahead while driving?
^^^^ What he said! Not really bothered by subjective stuff like the front styling or "coast-to-coast" rear lighting. You either like it or you don't. What matters is the stuff that makes the car easy to live with - or not.
BTW, in the Carwow review, they mention the availablilty of a 2litre 190PS petrol version. Is that actually correct? I don't recall seeing any mention of it in any of the official SEAT blurb.
BTW, in the Carwow review, they mention the availablilty of a 2litre 190PS petrol version. Is that actually correct? I don't recall seeing any mention of it in any of the official SEAT blurb.
In addition to the above - do this at night too when the cabin is dark. The cabin also looks cheap to me - the vent plastics just look low rent. I noticed this when they changed the Ibiza in 2017 - they actually downgraded the cabin quality considerably using less soft touch materials and cheaper feeling plastics.
A side by side (photo) comparison to the Mark 3 would be good. I've not been a fan of the Mk4 look in the press photos. But those sent to me by a friend of one in person, it does looks better with an amateur lens.
Also the bigger issue for me is as others have said, the touch controls being moved into the display.
Also the bigger issue for me is as others have said, the touch controls being moved into the display.
Storage - cup holders, glove box, door compartments etc.
As mentioned above, how easy is it to use the touchscreen - especially when driving.
How quickly can you access the system to demist the screen whilst driving if it suddenly mists up for example.
The lack of buttons makes me think we'll be talking to the car' more, rather than finding 'buttons' to press.
MPG - real world around town, motorway (I can only compare to my wife's Arona FR 1.5 150).
As mentioned above, how easy is it to use the touchscreen - especially when driving.
How quickly can you access the system to demist the screen whilst driving if it suddenly mists up for example.
The lack of buttons makes me think we'll be talking to the car' more, rather than finding 'buttons' to press.
MPG - real world around town, motorway (I can only compare to my wife's Arona FR 1.5 150).
Kangaroo test for the 1.5's! Also seconding ease-of-use tests on the infotainment/climate control - things like switching heated seats on, air re-circulation etc. Anything as easy as poking a real button in the Mk3.5 that seems to now be buried in infotainment menus!
New quality of life improvements like wireless CarPlay and anything new in the digital cockpit would be cool to see in action as well
New quality of life improvements like wireless CarPlay and anything new in the digital cockpit would be cool to see in action as well
First impressions are good. The car looks nice in the flesh, interior is good, seats very comfy. Screen is ok, will do a full video covering all the controls etc. It is a bit fiddly yes, but once familiar (I've not had full time to go through everything) I don't think will be the end of the world climate control wise, it does have dedicated touch areas for those not requiring going through the menus.
Engine is nice and pokey, not noticed any hesitation yet.
Engine is nice and pokey, not noticed any hesitation yet.
Engine Engine Engine that’s all I want to know, I have an early 68 Fr 1.5 130 with roo issues, is it sorted ?
how does it be have at junctions and roundabouts when rolling and flooring it in 6th at approximately 70mph that’s when mine is rubbish....
how does it be have at junctions and roundabouts when rolling and flooring it in 6th at approximately 70mph that’s when mine is rubbish....
Very boring wheels for an FR... however first edition wheels do look great on it from what I’ve seen.
Interesting question for you - is the fog light unit the same as the Mk3.5? Doesn’t seem to match the rest of the bumper, and it looks strangely familiar...
Interesting question for you - is the fog light unit the same as the Mk3.5? Doesn’t seem to match the rest of the bumper, and it looks strangely familiar...
The alloys on the FR First Edition might look OK but being diamond cut, the chances are they’ll be showing signs of white worm corrosion when they get to 2-3 years old - especially if they’re on a car in the UK that’s used as a daily driver during the winter months and subjected to road salt and spray.
They still look very SE, rather than FR. Seat has great looking silver wheels, so why put those horrible van alloys on a decent spec??
It really pains me to say it but i really like the look of the Focus ST line. Unsure if i could do it to myself though and own a Ford.
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