SCN Badger 5 UK ROLLING ROAD meet for all ko4 2.0 tfsi's feb 2014********

[LeonCR]

give me a reason why I would want to reply to this..

I'll catgorise it as my opinion.... but keep it to myself

Thought i had explained it in an earlier post but here goes again

I remember on some earlier Revo tunes they were requesting more fuel pressure than a standard pump could produce

as you have a upgrade you may be able to reach the values that are being requested

Its from memory so like i said im not sure if its 100% right so that's why I asked the question

 

[ibizacupra]

some logs of the cars from sunday (as I posted previously)

some of them I logged 230

http://www.badger-5.com/bin/bin-index.php?dir=Dyno/scn_tfsi-230214/logs/

 

[LeonCR]

some logs of the cars from sunday (as I posted previously)

some of them I logged 230

http://www.badger-5.com/bin/bin-index.php?dir=Dyno/scn_tfsi-230214/logs/

I have looked at them already but didn't see any logging for rail pressure on your car

may have missed it if so tell me what one i should have looked at

 

[ibizacupra]

I did'nt log my rail pressure on those runs

It runs 130bar request and actual from memory

 

[BIG_Y]

Everyone was on 104 octane fuel?or 98?

 

[LeonCR]

I did'nt log my rail pressure on those runs

It runs 130bar request and actual from memory

Am I right in thinking a standard hpfp can only deliver 120 ?

 

[ibizacupra]

Everyone was on 104 octane fuel?or 98?

cheungys lowewer boost run was his higher octane map I think. 104 I presume if thats what apr offer

I dont think any other car than cheungys has wmi on it tho.. Not that I saw (aside from my own)

 

[ibizacupra]

Am I right in thinking a standard hpfp can only deliver 120 ?

I've been told std can do more by a reliable source.

 

[LeonCR]

Did say I may be wrong so stand corrected if that is the case

 

[Evan@APR]

cheungys lowewer boost run was his higher octane map I think. 104 I presume if thats what apr offer

I dont think any other car than cheungys has wmi on it tho.. Not that I saw (aside from my own)

Correct. We created a special file for him that runs high boost on 98, but he wanted to see how the standard 104RON map faired against his high boost file. Over the past few weeks we've bounced logs back and forth WMI performance with the 104 map to ensure he's not damaging his engine, and he and I both wanted to see how it faired.

 

[Al]

Screw all these logs and r/r plots. Which one is fastest?

 

[LeonCR]

we need to do a 30-130 day

 

[ibizacupra]

Correct. We created a special file for him that runs high boost on 98, but he wanted to see how the standard 104RON map faired against his high boost file. Over the past few weeks we've bounced logs back and forth WMI performance with the 104 map to ensure he's not damaging his engine, and he and I both wanted to see how it faired.

logs are there to disect

Cheungy said:

mark cousins 341.5 333 APR 2+ (v3.4 Latest Map from APR)
david cheung 345.9 338 APR 2+ (104ron (old)Map using 50% Meth)
david cheung 344.4 359.3 APR 2+ map2 ("Test" HiBoost Map also with Meth)

For the record I don't drive a Cupra and the 3.4 is not available (still in the development stages) or something along those lines...I could be wrong but whatever

It pulled more timing on the 104 map than it did on the big boost map

Its map sensor under reads by some 400mb too

 

[Al]

Bill - how quick does your car go out of interest? In terms of lap times, 1/4 mile times, terminal speeds, 30-130 etc.

 

[Lee M]

we need to do a 30-130 day

This would be good fun

 

[ibizacupra]

Bill - how quick does your car go out of interest? In terms of lap times, 1/4 mile times, terminal speeds, 30-130 etc.

its a road car.
no idea

my ibiza is the track toy

 

[Al]

Don't you agree that it would be worthwhile to get some of these things documented also to back up these plots?

 

[vroomtshh]

Don't you agree that it would be worthwhile to get some of these things documented also to back up these plots?

You know yourself that different people driving there cars at different places etc arent exactly comparable. You Leon is almost a second slower on the 1/4 these days, then when you put your times in.
My Mk1 with 250bhp was competitive with the stage 2+ MK2s last year etc

Track times are a bit the same - if I'm a second quicker than you on track, is it because I have 30bhp more, or because i pushed harder?

 

[Fahid82]

Sounds like rolling road day went well, some good pics there

 

[Al]

That's my point sir. All this data, all the plots and all the BS don't make a car fast. The combined package of car and driver does.

The 30-130 thing to me sounds like the thing that would show performance without much driver skill needed other than to keep the steering wheel in the middle and catch gear changes quickly at the right revs.

Having said that, when you are separating 5/10 or even 20bhp, there isn't going to be a whole lot in it. Weight, aerodynamics, rolling mass and other things will play as much in to that as power differences too.

Interesting though it is seeing different codes, plots, logs etc compared for me at least, its all a lot of :w4nk: