APR vs REVO

wild willy

Full Member
Aug 4, 2003
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I switched to Revo for my mk1 lcr when Awesome dropped APR aprox 18 months ago. My experiences of both codes were:-
APR
Smooth
made best power for lowest boost
Excellent consistant fuelling.
Adjustable via vtune
Expensive.
Didn't like unsupported modifications........ limp mode.
Poor support
Lack of future code development.
limited availablity

Revo
very tolerant to unsupported mods...never experienced limp mode
Poor fueling too rich
adjustable via sps
reasonable costs
Excellent support
Code under continual development
readily available.

I would consider going back to APR but what annoys me as previously with them is that they have no plans to develop previous 1.8t codes and are soley concerned with the 2.0t engine.
 

jon-tfsi

Active Member
Mar 29, 2008
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The APR map is regarded by many as superior to Revo on the 1.8T.
Revo punchier and APR better top end

Thats the 1.8T tho . . . .
 

chrisboyle999

MFD3 for sale, inbox me.
Nov 28, 2006
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Geordieland
I switched to Revo for my mk1 lcr when Awesome dropped APR aprox 18 months ago. My experiences of both codes were:-
APR
Smooth
made best power for lowest boost
Excellent consistant fuelling.
Adjustable via vtune
Expensive.
Didn't like unsupported modifications........ limp mode.
Poor support
Lack of future code development.
limited availablity

Revo
very tolerant to unsupported mods...never experienced limp mode
Poor fueling too rich
adjustable via sps
reasonable costs
Excellent support
Code under continual development
readily available.

I would consider going back to APR but what annoys me as previously with them is that they have no plans to develop previous 1.8t codes and are soley concerned with the 2.0t engine.

Cheers, exactly the sort of answer I was hoping for after my original post. I know you are referring to the 1.8t, but I guess both tuners have the same philosify (sp) for both that and tfsi engines.
 

anthony37

Take No ****!
Jun 21, 2010
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Edinburgh
I switched to Revo for my mk1 lcr when Awesome dropped APR aprox 18 months ago. My experiences of both codes were:-
APR
Smooth
made best power for lowest boost
Excellent consistant fuelling.
Adjustable via vtune
Expensive.
Didn't like unsupported modifications........ limp mode.
Poor support
Lack of future code development.
limited availablity

Revo
very tolerant to unsupported mods...never experienced limp mode
Poor fueling too rich
adjustable via sps
reasonable costs
Excellent support
Code under continual development
readily available.

I would consider going back to APR but what annoys me as previously with them is that they have no plans to develop previous 1.8t codes and are soley concerned with the 2.0t engine.

I thought as much to be honest it would take some time before there's a company like Revo at the moment, they just reason't taken over Ford so its a statement in its own as a very fast growing performance company "Revo" Revo has the legs on any map so you have really answered your own post. Great stuff BTW. :whistle:
 
Jun 26, 2008
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Just round the corner.
Come on Poverty, lets be realistic - the only reason you do still post is because you've moved away from SEAT, but still want to post on here to rub your new car in everyones face, how fast it is, or how you know better now that you've moved on - you've done the SEAT thing, been there, done that, plus know it all, eh?....

You even have a pic of your Audi in your signature on a SEAT forum, including your own "stated" performance figures for it too.

Jealous? Nope. I drive a DIESEL Leon for a start, purchased for the economy (50+mpg) qualities of the car - plus I rate its style over its performance. If I wanted a true, thoroughbred performance car, I wouldn't be buying SEAT (or AUDI) anyway.

Have a nice day.

I can see why some people find it hard to make friends, being so abrasive.
Usually on a forum you make friends, and as and when you move on to a different make/car, you'd want to keep in touch. And everyone has had different experiences with their cars, and sharing helps everyone. What's the problem with sharing "your" current car's state of tune?

Anyway back on topic, I'm currently running Blufin stage 1, and tbh will be looking to change the map. Not sure which way to go yet, the tried and trusted route of REVO, or the new version of APR. Nibbles car (Blades old one, before anyone jumps doen at me) is an awesome car, running REVO. So if I went APR, and get to the same physical mods as his has. This would give a fairly good back to back comparison. There will be slight differences, regarding the clutch / flywheel being that we have. But will do more research before deciding which way I go.
 

Poverty

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I thought as much to be honest it would take some time before there's a company like Revo at the moment, they just reason't taken over Ford so its a statement in its own as a very fast growing performance company "Revo" Revo has the legs on any map so you have really answered your own post. Great stuff BTW. :whistle:

I wouldnt be so sure about that. Alot of stuff happening behind the scences. Plus the man responsible for all the past Revo maps has left the company, that's like Adrian newey leaving redbull.
 

Poverty

Guest
Nick kasperger, respOnsible for the 2.0tfsi maps, the skoda bonneville map etc.

They have poached another mapper, from superchips.
 

jon-tfsi

Active Member
Mar 29, 2008
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I'm still waiting for some evidence of this claimed 380 bhp REVO sinking APR software to appear
 

Poverty

Guest
Who called it Revo sinking software? It just makes as much power and holds power higher up the rev range than Revo whilst not suffering from a flat spot and being cheaper to boot. Probably gets better MPG than Revo on full throttle too As the fuelling hasn't been maxed out and then some to stop the exhaust gas temperatures from running away due to too much boost.
 
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Al

Active Member
Aug 29, 2005
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Who called it Revo sinking software? It just makes as much power and holds power higher up the rev range than Revo whilst not suffering from a flat spot and being cheaper to boot. Probably gets better MPG than Revo on full throttle too As the fuelling hasn't been maxed out and then some to stop the exhaust gas temperatures from running away due to too much boost.

And it's not proven, not tried and tested and not readily available ;)
 

jon-tfsi

Active Member
Mar 29, 2008
277
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Who called it Revo sinking software? It just makes as much power and holds power higher up the rev range than Revo whilst not suffering from a flat spot and being cheaper to boot. Probably gets better MPG than Revo on full throttle too As the fuelling hasn't been maxed out and then some to stop the exhaust gas temperatures from running away due to too much boost.

I see no evidence of it making as much power, yet!
Nor do i see any evidence of it holding power for longer, Yet!
Nor is it cheaper

The flat spot and MPG are just assumptions as there is not enough feedback from users to say either way.
Im not saying any of the claims are untrue but for such claims there is usually more evidence to back them up.
I must be getting impatient :shrug:
 

Poverty

Guest
And it's not proven, not tried and tested and not readily available ;)

I'm sure there are more APR users world wide than Revo ones ;)

3 of my mates are all running the APR map.

One ex mrc, one ex jabba, one ex Revo. They are happy, and boy they sure do test em!

I see your doing a event with Revo in Scotland, good luck against those focus RS's a well tuned one when they get going are quick!
 

Poverty

Guest
I see no evidence of it making as much power, yet!
Nor do i see any evidence of it holding power for longer, Yet!
Nor is it cheaper

The flat spot and MPG are just assumptions as there is not enough feedback from users to say either way.
Im not saying any of the claims are untrue but for such claims there is usually more evidence to back them up.
I must be getting impatient :shrug:

There is no flat spot with APR. like I said to Al 3 of my mates have been running the APR map for a while now.

The APR Cupra made more power than any other 2.0tfsi on the rolling road day.

MPG is an assumption, but it would make sense.

Edit

APR stage 2 plus is cheaper than Revo stage 2 plus, and it's proven to hold power longer looking at dyno sheets and user feedback.
 
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