Ko4 hybrid! What else.

[micknoon]

Hi peeps, just a couple of questions, my turbo unit is knackerd on my LCR 210 so was going to get it re-cond from crturbos but they said about the hybrid it will cost an extra £200, would you say that would be the best way to go, if a was to get a hybrid what else on the car would a need to get changed cause she is standard apart from a revo stage 1. Also what kind of money will it cost if a did need to change anythin?
Thanks michael

 

[Faisal]

hey mate, im looking at a hybrid turbo for myself too. im getting the blue smoke on start ups.

well ideally,you should upgrade your revo map to a stage 3 remap where you are better off with other supporting mods for it. if you have some extra cash i would recommend it. the best thing to do for good performance would be a full exhaust system with downpipe, induction kit,dumpvalve and a silicon TIP (the original TIP is prone to collapsing under high boost).

all this will cost you under £700 anyway. and coupled with the hybrid ko4, it should take you to about 300-320bhp. which is amazing.

but then you would need to look at a front mounted intercooler and a limited slip diff (both expensive).

thats the best way to optimise your car.


else you could go for the hybrid turbo, and remap the car to suit,however you wont get gains as good as 300bhp.

all depends on the size of your wallet. hope that helps!

 

[micknoon]

Yeah that's helped a lot, need to save up a few more pennies and just go all out and get it all done no point doing half a job. Thanks for the reply

 

[Murdered LCR]

i wouldnt bother i dont think there worth the money i havent seen any one make any decent figures from one the best have seen is about 290 ish no where near the 300 -320

 

[Faisal]

backdraft (i think) claim 300, and jbs claim 320... i was considering it if it gives a noticable improvement. dont shoot down my dreams

 

[micknoon]

Yeah mate heard the same from crturbos should be giving out 300 - 320bhp if a get an exsaust system, re-map etc so a phoned up drivers in Glasgow and they said they will do the revo stage 2, exsaust system and 4 bar fuel for £575 suplied and fitted and will be running 300ish so hopefully there right a would be happy with they results.

 

[paul-murphys]

im in the same boat also my cars not feeling as fast ( not boosting as much neither) an had blue smoke on tickover, sure its the turbo so got quote off crn turbos an they going to hybrid my turbo so hopefully after wont have blue smoke an wont have loss of power, i got everything else for my stage 3 apart from the 3" downpipe but got a decat so think should be ok ,

 

[micknoon]

A said to that place drivers in glasgow about going for the stage 3 but they said that's really for bigger turbo up grades and the stage 2 would be good for the hybrid, would you say to go for the stage 3? Would it make a lot of diffrence? And what other parts would a need to get the stage 3?
Thanks michael

 

[wild willy]

Trust me guys its a well worth upgrade. Very noticable performance upgrade over stage 2.
Stage 2 normally pulls 210g/sec of mass air flow which equates to 275bhp.
I flow 235g/sec which equates to 307bhp give or take.
30 bhp upgrade over stock.

 

[paul-murphys]

have you upgraded your downpipe to a 3" system, i have everything else but that am have you also changed clutch? thanks

 

[wild willy]

have you upgraded your downpipe to a 3" system, i have everything else but that am have you also changed clutch? thanks

I do have a 3 inch down pipe, but its not absolutely essential. it will assist in lowing the high exhaust gas temperatures which these turbos produce.
If mapped correctly to reduce the initial boost spike these turbos will be fine with the stock clutch. A manual boost controller can also limit the boost spike to save your rods and clutch.
The best upgrade these turbos will benefit from will be a high flowing exhaust manifold when somebody actually releases one.

 

[paul-murphys]

ok cool thanks, i got decat then 3" cat back fmic induction kit, im going to be changing mine myself will give instant power or will have to get mapped again because new hybrid on it, also have you got the forge actuator? yh read about high flow manifold but ones ive read about crack :-(

 

[wild willy]

ok cool thanks, i got decat then 3" cat back fmic induction kit, im going to be changing mine myself will give instant power or will have to get mapped again because new hybrid on it, also have you got the forge actuator? yh read about high flow manifold but ones ive read about crack :-(

Fitting the turbo diy is not too bad, just allow plenty of time and have all new gaskets, studs and washers available..... Jbs supplied me with a kit for about £45.

I'm running an APR stage 2 map and adjusted it with lemmingwinks to suit. If you are running a non custom map then i would strongly recommend a mbc.

I run and strongly recommend the forge actuator.

 

[paul-murphys]

yeah i got quoted 75 for the forge actuator. i will get car mapped again but need to no once fitter turbo will it be ok to do a 100 mile journey to amd with the old map an the new turbo? do you have to adjust anything on the turbo? i wont be doing track days anytime soon so wont always be boosting so not sure if temps will be to bad for time being? whats your car boost to an holding at? are you also using standard clutch? been quoted beetween 600-700 plus vat is this good?

 

[ibizacupra]

Trust me guys its a well worth upgrade. Very noticable performance upgrade over stage 2.
Stage 2 normally pulls 210g/sec of mass air flow which equates to 275bhp.
I flow 235g/sec which equates to 307bhp give or take.
30 bhp upgrade over stock.

logged 251g/s on a k04 hybrid on a converted ibiza running one. (k04 not k03/4 hybrid)
It wont make that on std actuator pressures however. wastegate penny will be blow open such is the system back pressure in these hybrids.. (and very high egt's)

 

[lordgibbness]

Out of interest for the ppl who've had turbo problems - do you let your car idle for 30s-1m after each journey or just turn off the engine?

 

[paul-murphys]

logged 251g/s on a k04 hybrid on a converted ibiza running one. (k04 not k03/4 hybrid)
It wont make that on std actuator pressures however. wastegate penny will be blow open such is the system back pressure in these hybrids.. (and very high egt's)

so what did you pull with these figures. i have decat but not 3" downpipe an cat back system, whats up with high egt? i wont be doing track days yet mostly motorway driving would this be ok,