1.4 tuning

[daveclayton]

merry christmas to you all!!

got a 1.4 tsi leon sport, fr bumpers (no badge though)

just wondering how much stuff can be done?

pleaaase no replies like 'well once youve told your insurance company blah blah blah' or 'buy a better car' or 'you will void warranty'

haha

seems like noone has come out with a remap yet for it??

gonna order a rarb from awesome in the new year, also looking for an exhaust system. again, only made for the cupra? ive done everything looks wise. now just want to make it that little bit better to drive.

 

[erichuyn]

We have VAG specialist here in Holland that maps it to about 150HP. Maybe once the exhaust and intakes come out you can go to 160 but I think that would be max on the stock turbo etc.
The block itself should be able to handle more as I think it is the same basic block as the 170 twincharger which can go to 200-210.
Also the new Sirocco comes with a 1.4 with 160HP but I think that has a different turbo.

 

[iendicott]

Hi Dave, we have the engine, AMD in Essex can remap to 160bhp but as this only has a small turbo I would think not much more would be possible unless you are prepared to replace the turbo, injectors etc.

 

[daveclayton]

seems like 160 is the way forward then!! just hoping for somewhere abit closer to leeds lol. anyone got any expirience of driving a mapped one?

 

[erichuyn]

You could try driving a demo Sirocco with the 160 I did, but now I want to have one

 

[alx_chung]

The 1.4 engine in the new Scirocco is different from the one that is in the Leon. The 1.4 in the Leon has only got a Turbo in it whilst the one in the Scirocco has a Turbo and a Supercharger.
I am sure that given time there will be more mapping options for the 1.4 but its still a fairly new engine in the VAG range.
Alex

 

[daveclayton]

yeah, dont think that vw would let me to be honest lol.

dont want to be spending thousands on tuning, just not worth it for me. probably looking at about a grand at the moment. think that would get me a decent map and roll bar and maybe some other little bits and bobs

saw an A3 the other day with a 1.4T badge on the back. are these the same engines as the leon?

 

[erichuyn]

The 1.4 engine in the new Scirocco is different from the one that is in the Leon. The 1.4 in the Leon has only got a Turbo in it whilst the one in the Scirocco has a Turbo and a Supercharger.
I am sure that given time there will be more mapping options for the 1.4 but its still a fairly new engine in the VAG range.
Alex

Are you sure, they never mentioned it. You'd think they'd put it in every brochure to suck in the idiots
I'm pretty sure that the twincharger concept is dead, too expensive and with modern turbo's obsolete.
Looking at the specs VW give themselves no mention of a twin- or bi-turbo.

yeah, dont think that vw would let me to be honest lol.

dont want to be spending thousands on tuning, just not worth it for me. probably looking at about a grand at the moment. think that would get me a decent map and roll bar and maybe some other little bits and bobs

saw an A3 the other day with a 1.4T badge on the back. are these the same engines as the leon?

Thinks so. Audi only has the 125HP unit.

 

[iendicott]

Are you sure, they never mentioned it. You'd think they'd put it in every brochure to suck in the idiots
I'm pretty sure that the twincharger concept is dead, too expensive and with modern turbo's obsolete.
Looking at the specs VW give themselves no mention of a twin- or bi-turbo.

I think the Golf GT 1.4 turbos are twin charged. The concept is to reduce \ Stop lag until the turbo cuts in plus emissions are low as a percentage of the exhaust gas is recycled into the engine. Well that's what I remember reading.

 

[erichuyn]

I think the Golf GT 1.4 turbos are twin charged. The concept is to reduce \ Stop lag until the turbo cuts in plus emissions are low as a percentage of the exhaust gas is recycled into the engine. Well that's what I remember reading.

Yeah I know, but I doubt that the concept still lives in the new cars like the Golf MK6, Sirocco and the soon to come Ibiza Cupra.
Like I said everywhere the engines are mentioned as turbocharged, there's no mention of twinturbo or supercharged&turbo.

 

[cheungy]

The 1.4 TSi engines we can take from 123bhp up to 165bhp and from 148lbft torque up to 196lbft torque giving a very impressive performance gain and all within safe design tolerance of the engine and drive train components.
All of our software has been developed using a MAHA LPS 3000 rolling road.
This ensures performance accuracy, reliability and also that your vehicle is MOT compliant for emissions testing.

I am getting this very soon....and the turbo is due for a change lol, 200-250 is more than enough for a Front wheel if i need more will be another car.

I done alot of research for the tsi, and it seems everyone thinks TSI is turbo and supercharged the seat leon only has a single turbine not twin or has additional supercharger to help, don't even know if you can add it ...but it would be nice aleast

 

[alx_chung]

The 1.4 TSi engines we can take from 123bhp up to 165bhp and from 148lbft torque up to 196lbft torque giving a very impressive performance gain and all within safe design tolerance of the engine and drive train components.
All of our software has been developed using a MAHA LPS 3000 rolling road.
This ensures performance accuracy, reliability and also that your vehicle is MOT compliant for emissions testing.

I am getting this very soon....and the turbo is due for a change lol, 200-250 is more than enough for a Front wheel if i need more will be another car.

I done alot of research for the tsi, and it seems everyone thinks TSI is turbo and supercharged the seat leon only has a single turbine not twin or has additional supercharger to help, don't even know if you can add it ...but it would be nice aleast

Thanks Dave for backing me up on this one. The only 1.4s that come with both the Turbocharger and the Supercharger are the ones that are in the Golf GTs and the Scirocco.
Alex

 

[Rampage]

How does it recycle engine gases more than the other engines?
The supercharger is belt/chain driven so simply pulls in air into the inlet tract.
The turbocharger is powered by the exhaust gases, which are then fed back into the exhaust.

Unless it means some sort of gas recirculation system, which I would imagine would be on all VW engines, not just one.
The supercharger wouldn't recirculate any exhaust gases and it has nothing to do with the exhaust and goes no-where near it.

Just interested thats all!

 

[cheungy]

How does it recycle engine gases more than the other engines?
The supercharger is belt/chain driven so simply pulls in air into the inlet tract.
The turbocharger is powered by the exhaust gases, which are then fed back into the exhaust.

Unless it means some sort of gas recirculation system, which I would imagine would be on all VW engines, not just one.
The supercharger wouldn't recirculate any exhaust gases and it has nothing to do with the exhaust and goes no-where near it.

Just interested thats all!

I think there was a demonstration video i saw once on the web explaining this...if i see it, i will let you know. but yea the engine your talking is only with volkswagon (am interested now thinking about it...but anyways MERRY XMAS everyone lol.

*just wanted to add the dealers who sold me the car also mention it was supercharged so at first i thought it was and some other people said it was but alot of people are confusing tsi being standardly supercharged.....wondering if i can add the supercharger on to it now theres space to do it.

 

[Poverty]

the 160 twincharger is apparently rather gutless and seems alot slower than specs would suggest going by what people who have driven it have said!

 

[iendicott]

Yeah I know, but I doubt that the concept still lives in the new cars like the Golf MK6, Sirocco and the soon to come Ibiza Cupra.
Like I said everywhere the engines are mentioned as turbocharged, there's no mention of twinturbo or supercharged&turbo.

It does not mention twincharged on the GT yet it is..
To be honest no one unless your a petrol head is bothered about twin chargers or the mention of the turbo and supercharger.

Also turbo and supercharging a car is not a new thing, I seem to remember nissan doing this years back on one of their smaller cars.

Anyway why wouldn't VW use this combination for future cars ? It makes more sense to twin charge a car as the supercharger has no lag and then the turbo cuts in for high power at top end.