Finally admitting defeat and swapping my TDI for a TFSI... DPF filter causing way to much trouble!!! Wonder how many of you guys considering the same thing? 
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Finally admitting defeat and swapping my TDI for a TFSI... DPF filter causing way to much trouble!!! Wonder how many of you guys considering the same thing?
Don´t forget to buy dsg, it´s half the fun!
Hell yes! If you are going to go TFSI... DSG that sucker!Don´t forget to buy dsg, it´s half the fun!
jimbo_FRDSG
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Don´t forget to buy dsg, it´s half the fun!
And I'll 3rd that .... its a must
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Prospective purchasers of any VAG 170 tdi fitted with a diesel particulate filter may be interested to read the following link before placing their order.
http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/discussion/more-motors-forum/1065299/
VAG deny that there is any problem and they have even produced special DPF question and answer brochures which are available from their reception desks. Something at the back of my mind makes me think that perhaps they protest too much.
http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/discussion/more-motors-forum/1065299/
VAG deny that there is any problem and they have even produced special DPF question and answer brochures which are available from their reception desks. Something at the back of my mind makes me think that perhaps they protest too much.
Well now thats interesting. Espescially as my daily commute consists of 5 or 6 miles on the motorway and 6 or 7 in town through traffic. I will assure you though if i get hit wil a replacement bill of £1500 i shal be paying it but rejecting the car!
MKSeat
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Thats the same issue I came up against so I opted to change the car!! Never really like automatics so didn't go for the DSG... I am sure I'll be shot down by a lot of you guys out there. Funny thing is Seat UK is still stating they are unaware of this DPF issue. I pointed out to them if AA knew about it how did they not? Lets hope no issues with the petrol, apart from it burning sa hole in my pocket for fuel... still like article states, if I had to run up and down to get rid of the light every 500 miles, thats and extra 120 miles extra on a yearly annual mileage of 9000 miles you'ed need to go. Now that doesn't make to much sense... pity as the diesel does run fantastic when it does.
I have just ordered a FR TDI and am a bit concerned about the DPF but as you say you have statutory rights to help you, seat will have to do something about these problems, also I think dealers have not been properly briefed about how to get it to regenerate, telling people to go for a long drive is no good as most people will just take it on a long road in 6th gear.
Lets say if you intend to drive in the city or drive short journeys that has lots of stop and goes, best you consider cancelling and get the petrol instead is my advise, else you're be one disappointed owner sooner or later.
I've now done just over 10k miles in mine and I've never seen the DPF light once. Mind you, most of the journeys it does it gets up to about 3500rpm a fair bit
The commute to work is 35miles each way. The plan is to move closer to work in the next few months, so we shall see what happens. It'll get a good run at least once a week anyway, whatever.
Anyway, if you intend to drive in the city or drive lots of short journeys (i.e. low annual milage) I can't understand why anyone would choose a diseasel over petrol.
I only picked the diseasel because I'm likely to do about 18-20k miles a year. Would've loved the petrol, but I'd have liked driving it too much and bankrupt myself with fuel costs.
Confused now!
Is it only the 170 that has the DPF?
I have a 56 reg TDI DSG Sport (140) is there one on mine?
Is it only the 170 that has the DPF?
I have a 56 reg TDI DSG Sport (140) is there one on mine?
Yes, it's just the 170. Your car doesn't have one
I do think that we're in danger of overstating the problems of a DPF. Sure, for some people it could be a problem, but I think that for the majority it won't be.
Edit: I also think that Seat should admit there *are* issues here, and should change their literature and/or sales team advice accordingly.
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I do mainly city runs (I live in Manchester). Even when I hit the motorway, it's only for a few brief minutes joining the M56 and then slowing to the 40mph zone.
The only reason I can see why I haven't suffered the DPF curse is because I drive the car like it's supposed to be driven. I let it rev to 3500-4000rpm quite often and leave in the 3000+ revs when possible (to hear the boom from the exhaust and feel that torque pounding the tarmac), using the gears and maximising torque & power.
If you are constantly aiming for the 1000-2000rpm band, perhaps it should politely be asked why they bought a reasonably powerful diesel semi-sports car and then drive it like a granny..? Even in our 30mph cities (I adhere strictly to the speed limit and do not speed), there are plenty of places (sliproads, dual carriageways) where you can stretch it's legs. If you aren't, you could have got the 105 or 140 TDI as you aren't making use of the performance that has been wrung out of it.
The only reason I can see why I haven't suffered the DPF curse is because I drive the car like it's supposed to be driven. I let it rev to 3500-4000rpm quite often and leave in the 3000+ revs when possible (to hear the boom from the exhaust and feel that torque pounding the tarmac), using the gears and maximising torque & power.
If you are constantly aiming for the 1000-2000rpm band, perhaps it should politely be asked why they bought a reasonably powerful diesel semi-sports car and then drive it like a granny..? Even in our 30mph cities (I adhere strictly to the speed limit and do not speed), there are plenty of places (sliproads, dual carriageways) where you can stretch it's legs. If you aren't, you could have got the 105 or 140 TDI as you aren't making use of the performance that has been wrung out of it.
Mine now at 4000 miles and the DPF came on at 500 miles (went then into limp mode and had to crawl back to dealers to regenerate filter), then came on again at 1300 miles (not angry), but a quick run on the M1 (5 miles) cleared that light and its been clear ever since......... just need to adapt driving styles and on occasion stay in 5th gear for a few miles to kick in the DPF regen process........
Overall, was very concerned at first, but comfortable that my driving style is now 'alligned' to the DPF system.
On the plus side..........
40mpg average to date.
34mpg when booting it about
47mpg round trip to Liverpool today.
Mike
57FRTDi, 18", Crono, BT, Armrest, Alu Trim, Muddies and Mats.............
Overall, was very concerned at first, but comfortable that my driving style is now 'alligned' to the DPF system.
On the plus side..........
40mpg average to date.
34mpg when booting it about
47mpg round trip to Liverpool today.
Mike
57FRTDi, 18", Crono, BT, Armrest, Alu Trim, Muddies and Mats.............
I'd like to say I do drive my car hard and love pushing it on the motorways and commutes to shopping centres via big A roads. However I also use it on short trips to pickup children from nursery etc. I'd like to say statements that I'm I should get a lower performance car is B****CKs. If I had the money I could have got a even bigger performance car with out the hassle that I had from the TDI, hence getting the petrol version. I think Seat will finally get it correct but until then I know Seat Service department is busy regenrating DPF filters for a lot of their owners.
I've done 10k miles in my FR TDI and have never seen the DPF light, but then it very rarely gets driven less than 20 miles. Or maybe I'm just lucky.
The interesting thing is that while Seat seem to be in denial about the DPF issues, I remember seeing a warning in the VW Passat brochure ages ago about the 170 PS engine being unsuitable for town driving. Makes you wonder why Seat doesn't have the same disclaimer in its literature
The interesting thing is that while Seat seem to be in denial about the DPF issues, I remember seeing a warning in the VW Passat brochure ages ago about the 170 PS engine being unsuitable for town driving. Makes you wonder why Seat doesn't have the same disclaimer in its literature
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