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surely if you adjust your driving style for damp greasy diesel covered roads and don't go raking around when the temperature is <5 degrees you'll be fine .... we rarely get enough snow here to warrant a second set of 'winter' tyres.
Common mis-conception! Winter tyres are for winter, not just for snow. In the Netherlands, they probably get as much snow as us but it is the law to use winter tyres in winter.
All I can say is that with winter tyres in winter, it is more safe than using summers. I still drive slower but if I hit ice or drive in the wet in cold conditions, the tyres handle it and I stand less of a chance of being going off the road or into a bush. Braking distances are shorter.
Muddy, they are All-season tyres with a high degree of winter capability. Never tried all out winters and I am a little unsure at how they would perform on motorways when the temp rises like what we have had this winter so far.
I know that winter tyres are a different compound which was why i suggested adjusting driving style in accordance with the conditions. I've been driving some 16 years or so now and in all manner of conditions and i've yet to have an accident because of it. If the weather is cold enough for ice / frost and the roads are damp / greasy then caution preceeds speed by a very long way.
Hehe that said i'll send you a paypal payment for £20 quid and a photo of me eating my words if i stack the car through a hedge on the 18s with Toyo T1-S that i've just bought
Hehe that said i'll send you a paypal payment for £20 quid and a photo of me eating my words if i stack the car through a hedge on the 18s with Toyo T1-S that i've just bought
Hehe that said i'll send you a paypal payment for £20 quid and a photo of me eating my words if i stack the car through a hedge on the 18s with Toyo T1-S that i've just bought
Keep the £20 and I hope I never see the pics! Stay safe
In the latest S3 brochure that was produced in Germany there were 2 tyre options (winter or summer), in the subsequent UK brochure just standard 'summer' tyres.
Although the GSD's are a fairly decent tyre in the wet (compared to the P-Zero Rosso) they aren't good once the temperature drops significantly, and the Toyo's I used to run were only slighlty better when cold.
I've only once run a winter tyre on a Jetta GTi 16v (Vredesteins - sold to me in error by Twit-Fit) and to be honest I didn't notice a massive difference (but then I only had 160bhp).
Although the GSD's are a fairly decent tyre in the wet (compared to the P-Zero Rosso) they aren't good once the temperature drops significantly, and the Toyo's I used to run were only slighlty better when cold.
I've only once run a winter tyre on a Jetta GTi 16v (Vredesteins - sold to me in error by Twit-Fit) and to be honest I didn't notice a massive difference (but then I only had 160bhp).
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Not sure if the winter tyres over here are the same or not, but I had them fitted to my last car when I worked in a ski resort. They are a different compound but the main difference with the tyres I saw were lots of slight grooves on the surface of the tyres.It made the tyre surface a lot more flexible and grippy. Just putting your finger on the tyre and trying to slide it along you could feel the difference.
I've driven winter and all-season tyres in both conditions got to say they are very good at what they do and I would have them if driving in enough snow. But having said that the grip levels don't make up for how quickly they wear if you're driving on tarmac. Even more noticeable when at speed or in mild to warm temperatures.
But like I said winter tyres over here may not be true winter tyres so this might not apply?
I've driven winter and all-season tyres in both conditions got to say they are very good at what they do and I would have them if driving in enough snow. But having said that the grip levels don't make up for how quickly they wear if you're driving on tarmac. Even more noticeable when at speed or in mild to warm temperatures.
But like I said winter tyres over here may not be true winter tyres so this might not apply?
Keep the £20 and I hope I never see the pics! Stay safe
Well i've got to 33 without doing myself any major injury. The thing i miss at the moment is the extra grip i had from the 4x4 system on the previous car, if the Leon had been available here as a 4x4 Cupra Tdi i'd have snapped it up! I ran the HR-V on 'summer' performance tyres for the 2.5 years i owned it and whilst you could definitely feel the loss of grip on greasy winter roads, the 4x4 drive system was sufficient to pull things back into line.
Having seen the videos of the volvos testing on ice with nothing more than ESP / TCS / Computery gizmos etc I am more than convinced that this and 4x4 IS the way forward.
I guess the real issue is that for the most part, people aren't as skilled behind the wheel as they'd like us to believe. I would definitely include myself in that group - i'd like to see a skidpan / car control section included in the driving test for starters. That is one area where 'learning on the job' is inadvisable!
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