Pothole killed my car (FIXED!)

Badger

Active Member
Dec 2, 2012
2,888
7
Newcastle, Staffs
Although this fault is fixed, I'll share my experience for others to note so how to fault find in the future.

So, there I was, travelling through Glasgow when I struck a pretty deep pothole, camouflaged by a puddle. The car started to cough and splutter, then stalled with the dash lighting up like Blackpool illuminations.

Resulted damage:

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...and a car which refused to start.

What next? VCDS Scan revealed a few faults

Code:
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-019-ASZ.lbl
   Part No: 038 906 019 LA
   Component: 1,9l R4 EDC G200SG  5405  
   Coding: 00105
   Shop #: WSC 06402  
   VCID: 61C94306EBE9A716FBD-4B36

6 Faults Found:
18044 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1636 - 35-10 - Missing Message from Airbag Controller - Intermittent
18045 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1637 - 35-10 - Missing Message from Electric Load Controller - Intermittent
18058 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1650 - 35-10 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster - Intermittent
17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer 
            P1570 - 35-00 -
18027 - Glow Plug Relay (J52) 
            P1619 - 35-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
18043 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1635 - 35-10 - Missing Message from A/C Controller - Intermittent
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 6Q0-907-37x-ASR.lbl
   Part No: 6Q0 907 379 H
   Component: ABS/ASR 5.7 FRONT   V30  
   Coding: 00188
   Shop #: WSC 06403  
   VCID: 428BAC8A4E2FDC0EC27-517A

2 Faults Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: None
   Part No: 6L0 820 043 B
   Component: CLIMAtronic PQ24    0201  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 25411716EF410B36C75-515E

2 Faults Found:
01271 - Positioning Motor for Temperature Flap (V68) 
            000 - - - Intermittent
00898 - Control Circuit A/C compressor 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 6Qx-937-049-C.lbl
   Part No: 6Q1 937 049 C
   Component: 00 BN-SG.           1S33  
   Coding: 00140
   Shop #: WSC 06402  
   VCID: 3B75D16E29C5ADC6811-517A

9 Faults Found:
00511 - Selector Lever (E313) 
            49-00 - No Communications
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            49-00 - No Communications
01324 - Control Module for All Wheel Drive (J492) 
            49-00 - No Communications
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            35-00 - -
01598 - Drive Battery Voltage 
            07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 6L0-920-xx0-17.lbl
   Part No: 6L0 920 920 K
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V11  
   Coding: 00445
   Shop #: WSC 00050  
   VCID: 3365F94E01956586591-517A
   VSSZZZ6LZ4R056375     SEZ7Z0C2168128

5 Faults Found:
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01322 - Control Module for Multi-Function Unit (MFA) (J501) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: 62 GATEWAY  CAN    1S33  
   Coding: 00014
   Shop #: WSC 06402  
   VCID: F0EFB642B0039E9EE43-517A

8 Faults Found:
00511 - Selector Lever (E313) 
            49-00 - No Communications
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            49-00 - No Communications
01324 - Control Module for All Wheel Drive (J492) 
            49-00 - No Communications
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            35-00 - -
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
   Part No: 6Q0 423 156 S
   Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V260  
   Coding: 10121
   Shop #: WSC 06402  
   VCID: 3F8DA57E3DDDB1E6AD9-515E

2 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 6Q0-959-433.lbl
   Part No: 6Q0 959 433 E
   Component: J2 Komfortgerát     0002  
   Coding: 00065
   Shop #: WSC 06402  
   VCID: 3D71DF7637D1A3F6BF5-4B36

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 6Q1959801A
   Component: J2 Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0003  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 6Q1959802A
   Component: J2 Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0003  

1 Fault Found:
00849 - S-contact at Ignition/Starter Switch (D) 
            25-10 - Unknown Switch Condition - Intermittent

What do the faults show? The engine won't start as the immobiliser is cutting the fuel and there is no connection to other modules in the car.

Why is the immobiliser kicking in? Somethings loose with the wiring behind the dash. The looms for all interior electrics meet at the bulkhead behind the clocks through various amounts of plugs. The immobilser in the cluster can't read the key so cuts fuel to the engine.

How can I fix it? Time for a roadside strip down...

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I had a feel and play with the wiring and the ignition on. Pushing the loom would turn some dash lights on and pulling the loom would turn lights off, something's not quite sitting correctly :wtf:

After an hour of wire and relay testing, I find the issue...

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The arrowed white plug had worked loose and was balancing in the holder. It's the same plug I had originally removed when installing Cruise Control last year. A swift push and it clicked into place.

Result? All running and no faults found on VCDS!

Lesson Learnt? WHEN INSTALLING ANYTHING ON THE CAR, ENSURE I DO IT CORRECTLY FIRST TIME AND SECURE ANY CONNECTORS I FIDDLE WITH

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Badger

Active Member
Dec 2, 2012
2,888
7
Newcastle, Staffs
Suspension is fine, no movement in the subframe or consoles and the spring, ARB and bushes are fine, tracking is slightly out though!

The steelie is 16"
 

abbotsmike

Active Member
Dec 17, 2011
418
1
Uxbridge
Suspension is fine, no movement in the subframe or consoles and the spring, ARB and bushes are fine, tracking is slightly out though!

The steelie is 16"

Looked lower profile than that, I was hoping you found a source of cheap 17" steels!
 
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