Remapping a PD170 FR

JMF894 · Jul 28, 2014

Hi all,

At some point in the future I will almost certainly map my newly acquired Leon FR 170 TDI. I have asked previously about who to go for but my question here is how do these PD170 FR's hold up to a stage 1 remap that may give 195-210bhp and 300-315 ft/lb? My main concern is of course the clutch. I only use the car to commute (60 mile round trip) and never done a track day in my life.

Jimbo

Ps 5 days into ownership and I bl**dy love it!

JMF894 · Jul 28, 2014

And so does the girlfriend who drove it for the first time yesterday. Rinsed a guy in a A4 2.0 TFSI Avant on the A47 coming off the roundabout.

Good girl. Practically saw the horns growing!!

:lol:

Minty9 · Jul 28, 2014

As far as I'm aware, with a stage 1 remap you should be fine with the original clutch. Aslong as it's not too worn. For a stage 2 remap then I think you would need to upgrade the clutch. How many miles has the car done? The only issue you might have is if the clutch you have at the moment is worn and on it's way out anyway.

MJ · Jul 28, 2014

They go like **** off a wet shovel when mapped BUT CHOOSE WHO MAPS IT WISELY!

JMF894 · Jul 29, 2014

MJ said:
They go like **** off a wet shovel when mapped BUT CHOOSE WHO MAPS IT WISELY!

I see you chose Revo. I used them on my MK1 Leon Cupra 150 TDI and on my MK1 Octy vRS

Both stage 1 and both enough for me. I have heard that they don't like to map the PD 2.0 TDI though for some reason. Is there any foundation to this?

Jimbo

MJ · Jul 29, 2014

I chose Revo because it was a freebie through work and I know the software is top notch.

They don't offer any software for the BMN PPD 170 engine because when they did, in the early days there were countless issues that were down to components like; injectors, DPFs, turbos etc but people were quick to blame the software so they dropped it.

We still have a couple that come in work with stage 1 Revo and they are rapid.

olitaylor07 · Jul 29, 2014

Go and see K-Tune (Jamie Kilner) for the PD170's he works magic on them.

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GrahamFR · Jul 29, 2014

olitaylor07 said:
Go and see K-Tune (Jamie Kilner) for the PD170's he works magic on them.

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Norfolk to Barnsley is no small feat, id have a look closer to home, give us a few names and let people advise on their experiences

olitaylor07 · Jul 29, 2014

If it's going to get it sorted 1st and run with no problem then why not. Enjoy the drive home

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Matt-V5-Duffy · Jul 29, 2014

Make sure that it has had the injector recall (if it qualifies)
The PD170 engines are prone to injector failure as the early Siemens Piezo units weren't up to the task.

JMF894 · Jul 29, 2014

Matt-V5-Duffy said:
Make sure that it has had the injector recall (if it qualifies)
The PD170 engines are prone to injector failure as the early Siemens Piezo units weren't up to the task.

Yes it was done Feb 2012 according to SEAT UK

Anyone experience of Celtic Tuning or Angel Tuning?

Jimbo

GrahamFR · Jul 30, 2014

both names have been mentioned on this site before i am sure someone will come along and comment soon

Daniel M · Jul 30, 2014

I got offered a remap last weekend for £150 instead of £250 from a company called AAS in Stockton (Advanced Auto Solutions). The owner actually lives on my road so might pay him a visit at some point to discuss in more detail. I asked if it was a generic map but was assured it was specific to each car. Only thing I didn't like was that they don't have a rolling road.

Obviously I would rather use someone else like Revo, Ktune etc, was tempted non the less though.

GrahamFR · Jul 30, 2014

quick look at their website says they do Quantum tuning maps, would avoid with a barge, let alone the pole, im sure these are the people that said they could REMAP my golf like last year, appear to pop up on BS websites everywhere, its your money tho

MJ · Jul 30, 2014

GrahamFR said:
quick look at their website says they do Quantum tuning maps, would avoid with a barge, let alone the pole, im sure these are the people that said they could REMAP my golf like last year, appear to pop up on BS websites everywhere, its your money tho

^ this ^

Daniel M · Jul 30, 2014

GrahamFR said:
quick look at their website says they do Quantum tuning maps, would avoid with a barge, let alone the pole, im sure these are the people that said they could REMAP my golf like last year, appear to pop up on BS websites everywhere, its your money tho

I'd rather have it done somewhere trusted that others have used to be honest. I'm not that clued on what type of maps are available. Whats bad about Quantum maps?

GrahamFR · Jul 30, 2014

the price is the first worrying point,
the second is no one has ever heard of them,
the 3rd is that they appear on websites for companies that all look the same with the same web design just different title,
the 4th is that they say theyve been established since 2007 but companies house says 2010 which means they must be called something else, looks like Cit-tech Ltd, who are currently dissolved, but dont worry the website is still running http://cit-tech.quantumtuning.co.uk/maidstone-tuning-remap-remapping-chip-ecu.aspx#intro but wait that's the same as quantum's?

Just everything rings alarm bells, over 250 dealers world wide? you mean 250 transit vans pumping out crap maps? http://quantumtuning.co.uk/quantum-dealers.aspx look at them all!?

Then compare against the biggest names in the industry and do you notice anything? http://www.goapr.co.uk/dealer/
Its like a type of ecu mapping Spam mail, maybe if you had an problem free car then yeah sure go for it, but I wouldnt risk it

AndrewJB · Jul 30, 2014

PD170 .. Get it done right first time..

K-Tune

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banksy21 · Jul 30, 2014

K-tune, darkside developments or pendle performance.

MJ · Jul 30, 2014

AndrewJB said:
PD170 .. Get it done right first time..

K-Tune

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Yeah but he can get it done for £150 though!?!

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